Hi [Advantaged NAC Member],

 

I am glad you chose to write back and copy some of your companions, and I am hoping that at least some of them are clergy in the NAC, for whom I have the following admonishment:

 

You are in mortal danger because you trust in lying words in the NAC that cannot profit (Jer. 7:8).  Repent of your sins otherwise you too will perish in the lake of fire (Luke 13:3).  To say that the NAC is not the only way to salvation exposes the lie to which you hold, which is pluralism.  There is only one way to that Father and that is through Yahushua Messiah (John 14:6).  The NAC apostles are false apostles and false prophets because (1) they teach what is contrary to the law and the prophets as found in the pages of Scriptures and (2) have uttered prophesies that have been proven false.  The head of every man is Messiah (1 Cor. 11:3) and not the apostles.

 

[Advantaged NAC Member], also please understand that the language I use is in no way intended to insult or condemn.  Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?  My language is straight to the point in an effort to convey the urgency of the matter.  Keep in mind that Yahushua did not refrain from language that was perceived as inflammatory.  If you were to die 10 seconds from now having trusted in the absolution of the NAC apostles instead of having trusted in the Scriptural process for forgiveness, you would almost certainly die in your sins having purchased for yourself eternal damnation by your unbelief.

 

Please see my reply to your comments below in dark green.

 

Shalom,

Tim Hanline, Jr.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [Advantaged NAC Member]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:47 AM
To: tim.hanline@lifelinetonac.com
Cc: [Advantaged NAC Member's Leader 1]; [Advantaged NAC Member's Leader 2]; [Advantaged NAC Member's Leader 3]
Subject: FW: life line

 

Hi [Advantaged NAC Member],

 

Having been raised in the New Apostolic Church, holding a priestly ministry there, it is very likely that I perfectly understand your beliefs and your theological views.  You believe that the NAC Apostles speak for “God” (apostles do not speak for God, they act in Jesus’s stead)

because they alone possess the Holy Spirit, and they alone are commissioned to dispense the Holy Spirit and forgive sins.  According to NAC doctrine, their word has become the authority (can you support this statement?)[Tim Hanline Jr.]  Yes.  The fourth article of the NAC faith is explicit in this point.  The NAC has, in essence, created another layer of abstraction that is not taught by the Messiah himself.  If the NAC apostles were authentic, we would see their ministry attached to a greater prophetic context, just as the Messiah’s ministry was.  We would also see the NAC apostles’ teachings consistent with the teachings of Messiah – unleavened (i.e. uncorrupted by un-Scriptural teachings), which we do not.  I have scores of examples of how the NAC adds to the law and the prophets, just like the Pharisees did.  , and the Bible is not as important.  (each divine service is based on a biblical text, so this is erroneous) [Tim Hanline Jr.] Not so erroneous!  The book The Chronicles of Narnia is based on the Bible, but this does not make The Chronicles of Narnia true.  Masonic lodges, a satanic organization, also open their meetings with Bible verses, but this alone does not qualify the Masonic organization as truth.  It is rather just another tool of deception from the adversary.  What is written in the pages of Scriptures must be studied in context and in depth to separate the truth from the leavened doctrines of men.

 

With a clear conscience before YAH and before men, let me assure you that the theological position of the New Apostolic Church as positively satanic, as it has successfully deceived people like yourself (and like myself before I actually studied the Bible) that the words of the NAC Apostles are more important than what is written in the Bible. 

 

Just as the devil beguiled Eve with the words, “hath God said” (KJV), he is beguiling the members of the NAC (and many other Christian denominations) with the idea that what the Most High has, through His prophets, written in the books of the law and the prophets can be somehow replaced, pushed aside, or supplanted.  What has been given to us by the law and the prophets cannot be changed, nullified, or invalidated until Heaven and earth pass away (Matt. 5:18, Matt 24:35, Mar 13:31, Luke 16:17, Luke 21:33).  There is only one narrow way to salvation through Messiah Yahushua; therefore, to be correct, the statement “the New Apostolic Church is not the only way to salvation” should read, “the New Apostolic Church is not the only way to damnation.”  (very insulting, and not good debating) [Tim Hanline Jr.] There is only one way to the Father, and that is through Messiah Yahushua (Yoh 14:6), so those who are saved are certainly part of a very exclusive club, so to speak.  One cannot find salvation through any other… not Muhammed, not Gandhi, not the mother Mary, and not the NAC apostles.  So, the statement was not insulting in as much as it was to prove a point: the adversary gives us many roads to choose from, but there is only one narrow way that leads to salvation, which is why the statement “the New Apostolic church is not the only way to salvation” should be a big wake-up call (a “red-flag” if you will) to all members of the NAC who know their Bible and consider what is written there as authoritative.  It is a logical contradiction of what is written in the Scriptures.  When you obey men – even men that claim “apostolic authority” – rather than obeying the Most High, expect that your fate will be the lake of fire.  Just as Jesus was the Word of God” in flesh, i.e. a man, I believe the apostles, being sent by Jesus, are men to be “received” - as Jesus said “whoever receives you, receives Me”[Tim Hanline Jr.]  So then the question becomes, how do you know for certain that the NAC apostles were sent by the Messiah?  Does their ministry fulfill any prophesy?  No.  Are their teachings consistent with the law and the prophets?  No, which we will continue to demonstrate.  Did Jesus himself come down to earth and anoint these men?  No.  Institutionally, they have no connections back to the first apostles, as the Roman Catholics claim, so in this regard, the Roman Catholic Church has a more credible claim on the apostolic ministry than the NAC.  By the testimony of the NAC’s history, we see that prophet Geyer called the NAC apostles.  Even Yahushua’s ministry was not out of prophetic context.  Should the need arise, we can, though the prophesies found in the Scriptures (Genesis through Malachi) prove without a doubt that Yahushua is the Messiah.  Daniel chapter 9, for example, even gives us a precise timeline for the Messiah’s death, an incredibly accurate prediction that can come only from the REAL Holy Spirit.  None of these validating prophesies exist for the NAC apostles.  

 

According to NAC doctrine, I have, with the above words, just committed the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit (what exactly did this guy say against the Holy Spirit? Sounds to me like all this negative commentary in the preceding paragraph is against the church and the apostles)[Tim Hanline Jr.]  ok, allow me to rephrase to prove a point.  The so-called “holy” spirit that controls the apostles of the NAC is not from the Father in Heaven; it is not the REAL Spirit of truth but is rather a lying and deceiving spirit.  In other words, the spirit that controls the NAC apostles is actually a demon from the pit of hell.  I say this on the authority of scriptures.  Once a person or organization takes it upon himself or itself to claim to speak for the Most High or even act in the stead of the Messiah, this person or organization has just ascribed to himself infallibility when speaking for the Most High.  So, per Deut 18:22, he is allowed absolutely no tolerance for error, however we can see many examples of how the NAC has claimed to speak for the Father and issued unrighteous edicts, and these are no big secret.  In order to truly be prophetic, a prophet must be 100% accurate 100% of the time and 100% consistent with scriptures when speaking for the Most High or in “Jesus” stead, if you will.  (It is for this reason that the Scriptures are not studied in detail in the NAC). The Jehovah’s witnesses are an example of another group that looks to an institution of men to speak for the Most High.  They continue to regard the Watchtower Society’s words as infallible despite the fact that they have issued many false prophecies.  Roman Catholic church is another example.  False prophesies are always a dead give-away of an aberrant group. however, let me assure you that this is not the case.  Pointing people to the pages of Scriptures and admonishing them to obey the Most High and have faith in Messiah Yahshua is an idea that is born of the real Holy Spirit, the spirit of truth who reproves the world of sins and teaches us all things, as written in the Scriptures.  Be assured that I do not use these words lightly or un-deliberately; they are the result of intense study of the Scriptures and of New Apostolic doctrine, and my conclusion is that they these two are diabolically opposed to each other. 

 

For example, you asked, “How is the New Apostolic way not in accordance with [Messiah Yahushua’s] teaching?”  For the sake of brevity, I will confine my answer at this time to the following:

 

1.       The NAC blesses marriages between men and divorced women whereas Messiah Yahushua taught that if a man marries a divorced woman he commits adultery (Matt. 19:9, Mark 10:12, Luke 16:18). what about the divorced woman who has received forgiveness? is it *then* still adultery? [Tim Hanline Jr.] The question here is, what sin should she be forgiven of?  Was it a sin to get married in the first place?  No.  Was it a sin to get divorced?  Only if there was no sexual impurity involved.  Would either of these conditions exempt her from the sin of adultery if she remarries?  The Scriptures are very clear on this point, but aberrant groups such as the Roman Catholic Church and the NAC have chosen to be man-pleasers instead of YAH-pleasers.  The only question in this an all matters is, “what do the Scriptures plainly teach on the matter?”  Genesis 2:24: “For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”  Shaul wrote of the Scriptural mandate regarding marriage in Romans chapter 7:2-3, when he wrote, “For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.  So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.”  So, we see from a purely Scriptural perspective, divorce does not abrogate a marriage vow and does not allow a woman to remarry.  She may remarry only after her husband dies.  No other caveats are given in Scriptures and any given by man – including the men in the NAC – are designed specifically by the adversary to bring condemnation, as they are extra-Biblical.  Yet your question is a good one, as it is a good reason to discuss this important institution of marriage, which men (including the men in the NAC) have perverted. 

2.      The NAC Apostles, like many other Christian leaders, teach disobedience to the Torah – the teachings given at Mount Sinai – whereas Messiah Yahushua taught that those who disobey these teachings will be damned (Matt 7:23, Matt 13:41-42). evidence to support that the apostles teach disobedience to the bible? [Tim Hanline Jr.] The doctrine of marriage is one example, and even one example should be sufficient, according to Scriptures.  There are others, however.

3.      The NAC Apostles, like the leaders of many other Christian denominations, teach obedience to the “Beast,” which is defined by Daniel and John.  The “Beast” is the forth nation of the earth, namely Rome, and its end-time manifestation is the Roman Catholic Church and all of its variants.  Therefore, obedience to the Roman Catholic Church’s laws and holy days, such as cannon-law and observance of invented holy days such as Sunday-worship, Christmas, and Easter instead of the commanded holy days in Leviticus chapter 23 per Daniel 7:25, constitute worship of the “Beast”.  Messiah Yahushua however simply taught obedience to the Most High through the law and the prophets (Matt. 5:18, Matt 24:35, Mar 13:31, Luke 16:17, Luke 21:33) referring to the Beast’s commandments and holy days as the “abomination of desolation” (Matt. 24:15, Mar 13:14), otherwise known as “Baal worship.”  (I understand that this point may be difficult to understand, so please let me know if you would like clarity). The assertion that the church teaches obedience to the “Beast” is false… evidence? [Tim Hanline Jr.] I knew this would raise some questions, and this can be a length discussion because it indicts virtually every Christian.  When discussing this, please keep in mind that the dragon has deceives the whole world (Rev 12:9), and the dragon gives the beast his power (Rev 13:2).  The question then is, “who is the beast?”  Purveyors of John Nelson Darby’s eschatology such as Tim LaHaye, the NAC Apostles, and many other Christian groups would have you believe that the “beast” is a man who comes to rule the world at the end-time.  They further teach that, although the beast is mention in the pages of Scripture, we do not need to worry about this beast, because we (or the “elect”) will have been raptured or taken off the earth by Jesus’ second coming.  (Study these doctrines carefully for yourself trusting in no man but trusting only in the authority of Scripture).  The beast is defined by Daniel as the fourth kingdom of the earth (Daniel 7:17).  The first three kingdoms of the earth described in Daniel 7: 4-7 are Babylon, Medo-Persians, Greece respectively, and finally the forth, which is Rome.  History is unambiguous on this.  Per Daniel 7:26, 27, this beast shall rule until the “set-apart ones” cut off the beasts’ rule.  Now, in Revelation chapter 13, we see that this same beast is still around during the end-time.  The Roman Empire does not exist per se, however its present-day manifestation is the Roman Catholic Church.  This brings me to the mark of the beast, but that is a discussion for another day if you are interested.  The NAC teaches the beast’s holy days, for example: Sunday, Easter, Christmas etc.  Indeed the Roman Catholic Church fulfils the prophecies of the Beast in every way – especially as Rome presumes to change the appointed times (Leviticus 23 holy days) and law or Torah (Daniel 7:25)  Therefore in a way, the NAC is teaching to “worship” or “obey” the beast in this capacity.  (Remember Shaul’s words in Romans 6:16: you worship whom you obey).  Suffice to say that any aspect of Roman “Cannon Law” that is not support by Scriptures is an example of worship of (or obedience to) the Beast, that is the Mark of the Beast – the Beast’s sign, if you will.  This means that many, many in Christendom today have this mark.  This is a tough concept to wrap your brain around unless you are fully committed to the authority of Scriptures alone.    

4.      The NAC Apostles claim apostolic authority yet tolerate false prophets, namely the chiefest, Chief Apostle Bischoff.  Bischoff’s unfulfilled prophesy should have been a loud wake-up call to all members of the NAC.  The Bible teaches that the Most High allows false prophets (Ezekiel 14:9) in order that you may know who He does NOT approve of (Deut 18:22) and in order to test you to know if you truly love Him (Deut 13:1-11).  [Tim Hanline Jr.] No reply on this point??  This topic actually should be the proverbial nail in the NAC coffin. 

5.      The NAC Apostles teach the doctrine of “service for the departed,” whereas Messiah Yahushua taught no such thing, as it is a violation of the laws against necromancy (Deut 18:11).  You have only on chance for salvation and that is while you live on this earth; once you die, there is no more opportunity for redemption, as the time for repentance has passed (Hebrews 9:27). We believe Jesus entered the beyond to preach the message of redemption to those who lived before Him [Tim Hanline Jr.]  Yes, this was pointed out in Peter in 1 Peter 3:20 that Messiah went and proclaimed unto the unclean spirits in prison who were disobedient at one time when the patience of Elohim waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared.  However, what you do not see in these verses is command given by Messiah that Peter or any of the apostles do the same or even call them out of their prison to the “alter.”  This teaching was instituted by CA Bischoff, a proven false-prophet.  It is just another trick by the adversary to get you to disobey the Most High.  Simple.  Service for the departed is commanded NOWHERE in scriptures but is rather explicitly forbidden.  You have (and I was, too) duped into doing something that the Scriptures refer to as an abomination, which is exactly what the adversary wants us to do, as he is commissioned to do whatever it takes to get us to disobey the Most High.  

6.       The NAC is beholden to a rigid organizational hierarchy where those at the top of the hierarchy enjoy exorbitant privilege and wealth, whereas Messiah Yahushua taught that the greatest among you shall be your servant (Matt 20:27, Matt 23:11). [Tim Hanline Jr.]  No reply on this point??

7.      The NAC organization closely guards certain secrets such as details of the church’s history and the salaries of the Apostles, whereas Messiah Yahushua preached openly, teaching nothing in secrecy (John 18:20).  [Tim Hanline Jr.]  No reply on this point??

8.       The eschatological position of the New Apostolic Church (namely the doctrine of “day of the first resurrection” as it is taught in the NAC) is inspired by the teachings of John Nelson Darby and not by a rigorous commitment to Scriptural precision.  There shall certainly be a resurrection of the dead; however the NAC doctrine’s details of the timelines of end time events are inspired by teachings that are from men and not from the Scriptures.  (Too many scripture references to list here, but please start with Matthew chapter 24.  Please let me know if you would like more information on this point). What about what’s written in Revelation? [Tim Hanline Jr.] The book of Revelation must be considered in light of prophesies that already are outstanding from Genesis to Malachi.  John is not going to write anything that contradicts the law or the prophets otherwise he would be in violation of Deut 13:1-11.  So, consider the entire book of Revelation within the context the rest of Scripture to get a clear definition of the terms and concepts that John uses.

9.      The theological teachings of the NAC apostles have changed with time.  For example, when I was a confirmation student in the NAC, the NAC apostles taught exclusivity and would never have said, “The NAC is not the only way to salvation.”  The truth found in Scriptures, however, does not change with time.  If the NAC apostles would simply refrain from lying in the first place and instead cling to the plain truths of Scriptures, there would be no need for them to change their story or doctrine. [Tim Hanline Jr.]  No reply on this point??  This is a tough one because I have many examples of how the NAC doctrine has changed with time.  Remember that the REAL Holy Spirit – the REAL Spirit of Truth will have no need to correct himself because He always speaks the TRUTH.  Changing doctrines is further evidence that the NAC is not prompted by the authentic Holy Spirit.     

10.     There are no Biblical scholars in the NAC hierarchy; NAC clergy have no interest in learning Hebrew and Greek or of studying Scriptural manuscripts to separate Scriptural truths from scribal, translational, and doctrinal errors.  I get in my car and drive because I trust the mechanics put the car together properly.. I read the english bible with the same level of confidence [Tim Hanline Jr.]  Ouch.  Well, not sure I can debate this point with you if you don’t think that the Scriptures are worthy of study, but I will for love for you (not a phony love, mind you), try my best.  Translators can make errors and they certainly have.  I have examples of these errors in virtually all English translations of the Scriptures, and they are easy to spot if you take time to study the topic.  But before we go there, I want you think of your understanding of the Scriptures as a life-raft that you can cling to.  This life-raft will save your life.  Translations, doctrines of men, and agendas of men are like holes in this life-raft [that will cause the raft to slowly sink].  So, you really have to study to show yourself approved to understand where the holes are in your understanding of the truth, I would say.  Certainly, you are commissioned as a believer to study to show yourself approved, so passing this responsibility off is a very dangerous gamble, I would say, at best, and blatant disobedience at worst.  Remember what the prophets (the REAL prophets) IsaYAH and JeremiYAH said (Is 2:22, Is 50:10, 11, Jer 17:5), “cursed is the man who trusts in man.”  Yes, this includes the men who are apostles in the NAC.  Perhaps the most appropriate Scripture that applies is JeremiYAH 5:31, “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their own authority; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?”  Jeremiah chapter 23 will also help you make an accurate comparison between today and Jeremiah’s time.   

11.  The Apostles of the NAC are not given credence by any prophetic context, whereas Messiah Yahushua fulfilled scores of Messianic prophesies with perfect precision and with perfect detail.  Even the alleged prophet Geyer, who called the first NAC Apostles during the schism with the Catholic Apostolic church, later renounced the Apostles of the NAC.  The apostle ministry was Jesus’s gift to us – why would His gift require prophecy – He sent them to teach and forgive sins, there is no prophetic credence required.  Just because the Old Testament prophets didn’t say there would be apostles doesn’t mena there should not be any.[Tim Hanline Jr.]  Not so!  Prophet Amos wrote (Amos 3:7), “Surely YAH Elohim will do nothing, but he reveal His secret to his servants the prophets.”  Here is another example of why study of the Scriptures is so important!  You must train yourself by the Scriptures to sift falsehood from truth.
Who does this guy say was Geyer - a prophet or not? if not, why does he say “even Geyer…renounced the apostles…” when you do not recognise Geyer. You  cannot say “alleged prophet” and then try to use this Geyer’s words as evidence of wrongfulness.[Tim Hanline Jr.]  The entire topic “prophet Geyer” is one of the examples of how the NAC tries to cloak its history.  The “Apostle ministry” as evident in the NAC was the invention of prophet Geyer in the 1870’s during the schism with the Catholic Apostolic church.  So the prophetic validation of the NAC apostles rests on the shoulders of this “prophet,” whom we know little about, and this is not discussed in the NAC generally.  Further what is not routinely discussed is how Geyer forsook the NAC apostles and for what reason.  So, we have this man Geyer that prophetically called the NAC apostles, yet we have no validation of this man’s credentials as a prophet.  There are so many presently-day example of this type of thing: Muhammad (for the Muslims), Joseph Smith (for the Mormons), the watchtower society (for the Jehovah’s Witnesses), Benny Hinn, Todd Bentley, Rick Joyner, Michael Brown, et cetera.  These men have negative credentials, but they teach what people want to hear, so people follow them instead of clinging to the Scriptures.

12.   The Apostles of the NAC validate their theological positions via various “experiences of faith” (i.e. “signs and wonders”).  Members of the NAC do the same.  In contrast, Messiah Yahushua, although He performed many miracles, validated his teachings with Scriptures warning his taught-ones against being deceived by false anointed-ones and lying signs and wonders (Matt. 24:24). This is because in Jesus’s time, there were others who claimed to be the sent One and also performed “miracles” by healing people.  Our faith isn’t strengthened by miracles – that would lead to a weak faith that only believes on what cannot be explained; but by evidence of how close God is to us – this is what I would call an experience of faith. [Tim Hanline Jr.]  Be careful here with the context.  Yahushua’s words here explicitly indicate conditions of the end time (Matthew 24:3).   

 

The NAC is a beastly organization teaching a beastly theology – deceiving, brainwashing and enslaving rebellious reprobates who despise the Torah of the Most High and His prophets.  Yet this is the same sin seen in most other Christian churches as well.  However, as we read in IsaiYAH 8:20, “to the law and the testimony: if they speak not according to these words, it is because there is no light in them.”

 

I pray that you and others will understand that the Bible – the real Word – is our authority.  Read it.  Study it.  It contains the instructions of how to walk the narrow way that leads to salvation.

 

Please tell me what ministry you hold in the NAC. 

 

In the service of Yahushua Messiah,

Tim Hanline, Jr.